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Posted on 25/08/02 13:44
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Scratched/Low Quality Disc
 

It happens to all of us sooner or later: a disc is scratched and cannot be read properly anymore... In this test we took a CD-Recordable and (heavily) scratched it with some fine sandpaper. We then did a surface scan with Nero CD Speed and you can see the results below. First off let's start with the ATIP information from the used CD-Recordable:

  • ATIP: 97m 15s 11f
  • Disc Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
  • Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
  • Media type: CD-Recordable
  • Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
  • Nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Now for the achieved results. We read the disc with the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive and then read the same disc with several other recorders for comparison. You can see the result of the Yamaha drive in the screenshot below. Please note that damaged sectors can still be read. The important percentage is the one of the unreadable sectors. Of course the less, the better:

Yamaha CRW-F1 Scratched Disc Test
Yamaha CRW-F1 reading scratched disc

In the table below we've summed up our test results comparing them to other drives we've previously reviewed. Again, keep in mind that the important percentage is the one of the unreadable sectors. Of course the less, the better:

Scratched
Disc
 Good   Damaged   Unreadable 
 PleXCombo 
PX-208TU
55.80%28.53%15.67%
 VisionTek 
Xtasy 48X
36.89%44.41%18.70%
Toshiba
 SD-M1502 
 35.84% 38.56%25.60%
 PleXCombo 
 PX-320A 
 64.58% -35.42%
Mitsumi
 CR-480ATE 
 59.87% -40.13%
TEAC
 CD-W540E 
 32.08% 27.38%40.54%
 Yamaha 
CRW3200E
48.59%-51.41%
 Plextor 
 PX-W4012TU 
 35.95% 8.78%55.28%
 Yamaha 
CRW-F1
37.72%-62.28%
 The grey area's indicate the least amount of unreadable sectors 
- : drive cannot report damaged sectors

Low Quality Disc:

To add a little more to our scratched data reading tests we've added another test for you. We wrote a low quality 74 minute CD-Recordable using the VisionTek Xtasy 48X drive and Nero Burning Rom. We disabled its SMART-BURN feature so errors would probably be created. The ATIP information from the used CD-Recordable:

  • ATIP: 97m 31s 01f
  • Disc Manufacturer: unknown
  • Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
  • Media type: CD-Recordable
  • Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
  • Nominal Capacity: 656.69MB (74m 45s 00f)

We then scanned the disc with Nero CD Speed using various drives we've previously reviewed. You can see a screenshot of the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive reading the low quality disc below:

Yamaha CRW-F1 reading low quality disc
Yamaha CRW-F1 reading low quality disc

In the table below we've summed up our test results again, comparing them to other drives we've previously reviewed. Again, keep in mind that the important percentage is the one of the unreadable sectors. Of course the less, the better:

Scratched
Disc
 Good   Damaged   Unreadable 
Plextor
 PX-W4012TU 
 99.44% 0.56%0.0%
PleXCombo
 PX-208TU 
 89.60% 10.40%0.0%
Toshiba
 SD-M1502 
 86.21% 13.79%0.0%
 VisionTek 
Xtasy 48X
59.44%40.56%0.0%
 PleXCombo 
 PX-320A 
 89.49% -10.51%
TEAC
 CD-W540E 
 66.21% 11.75%22.03%
Mitsumi
 CR-480ATE 
 60.34% -39.66%
 Yamaha 
CRW-F1
48.81%-51.19%
 The grey area's indicate the least amount of unreadable sectors 
- : drive cannot report damaged sectors

Conclusion:

When reading the heavily scratched disc and the low quality disc the Yamaha CRW-F1 gets the last place with both tests, Yamaha definitely needs to tweak the drive's performance when it comes to correcting errors a the disc via a future firmware upgrade for instance.

That concludes the reading part of our review. Now it's time to see how the Yamaha CRW-F1 performs when writing discs...

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Only one remark: I told you to use a pic of Anna Kournikova ;)
Great review guys.
Certainly a very nice drive. Did you all also noticed this is the first review to feature c1/c2 error scanning test? Nice work!
I would almost buy this drive but for the inability to do EMF encoding perfectly. I know that can be overlooked by some but it seems to me a defect and for that price it is a defect that I can't abide. I gave it some thought and even considered buying a USB2 Liteon and then this Yamaha but I want my main CDRW to be bit perfect. Maybe I will wait for the USB2 version.:(:4
Hands Up! Everybody.. Hands Up for this review! :P

Anyfinally more than a 2MB buffer on a fast drive.
Great review!!!

How exactly does the TDK/Lite-on 48x24x48 drive compare to this Yamaha drive??? Most importantly, is the TDK/Lite-on drive able to copy all copy protections without the 'amplify week sectors" option of clone-cd??? I would love to se a review of the TDK drive with exactly the same benchmarks and comparisons… I am going to buy the TDK or this Yamaha… Pleas help me, and the rest of us make up our minds!

Thanks,
KGB_22
Hmmm...so...DiscT@2...do the current crop of Liteon burners (40X and 48X write) support any similar technology?...As I would ditch them for the Yamaha if not...
No, the Lite-Ons don't have any technology like this..
posted a link to a TDK 48X review rivaling the Yamaha here yesterday but got deleted ...

but nvm ... here we go again o'.'o

[url]http://www.reviewmakers.com/showdoc.php?review=51[/url]
I would like to give comment on it's special feature "Audio master Quality Recording", i have made test's in comparison with the plextor's feature "vari-rec" and came across the conclusion that the plextor is far better in musical quality than Yamaha's recordings.
I have made even a recording on single speed using the Yamaha, because i could not believe its dissappointment but with no better result.
I naturally first ripped the audio with plextool's 1.15 new DAE extraction, because it's better than EAC's and made recordings on Platinum's 700 MB CD-r's
on 50 piece spindle costing only 35 Euro cents a piece.
The Plextor's recording were very little bit lighter in sound-quality, but just as musical like the originals, but the Yamaha's were very much different in comparison with the original cd's and lacked musicality giving you that kind of specific digital sound.
Used Cd sources were, Badi Assad's "Rhythms" and Chessky's demonstration cd and Mariah Carey's "Butterfly".
So for the enthousiats among audiofreaks consider this comment as serious.
All the other qualities of cd-burning of the Yamaha is perfect according the tests on this site.

Great review site.
My compliments.
Highend_freak.
I read the review about the TDK Cyclone 48x24x48x drive and it seems great. But the review didn't cover the drive's ability to read and make backups of copy-protected CDs. Does anyone know anything more about that or where or how to find out? Also, this drive isn't listed by any vendor in Pricewatch as of today. Does anyone know a source for purchasing this drive? Thanks.
There is a forthcoming review of this drive and some cautions about the Tatoo feature ( wastes recordable space etc) at tomshardware.. it was sent out to subscribers of Hardnews at tom's [url=http://www.tomshardware.com/newsletter/vol2/36/yamaha.html] Link [/url] :4
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